{"id":27293,"date":"2024-10-09T14:55:39","date_gmt":"2024-10-09T13:55:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fojustice.fr\/web\/?p=27293"},"modified":"2024-10-09T14:55:39","modified_gmt":"2024-10-09T13:55:39","slug":"prison-de-joux-la-ville-declaration-liminaire-csa-du-09-octobre-2024","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fojustice.fr\/web\/prison-de-joux-la-ville-declaration-liminaire-csa-du-09-octobre-2024\/","title":{"rendered":"Prison de Joux-la-Ville : D\u00e9claration liminaire CSA du 09 octobre 2024"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Bonjour \u00e0 tous, nous voil\u00e0 une nouvelle fois r\u00e9unis en CSA, 8 jours apr\u00e8s le dernier en date, afin de nous prononcer une nouvelle fois sur l\u2019organigramme appliqu\u00e9 qui nous a \u00e9t\u00e9 propos\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Nous ne reviendrons que tr\u00e8s bri\u00e8vement sur les vices de forme qui ont d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e9t\u00e9 pr\u00e9c\u00e9demment \u00e9voqu\u00e9s afin de replacer ces rencontres dans leur contexte. Lors du CSA du 1er octobre les documents nous ont \u00e9t\u00e9 envoy\u00e9s en plusieurs vagues successives, l\u2019une \u00e0 8 jours, l\u2019une \u00e0 4 et les autres la veille. En recevant presque la moiti\u00e9 des documents de travail la veille du CSA, il nous est impossible d\u2019\u00e9tudier convenablement ces derniers et encore moins de partager des r\u00e9flexions avec les agents que nous repr\u00e9sentons. La probl\u00e9matique a \u00e9t\u00e9 contourn\u00e9e ce jour puisqu\u2019aucun nouveau document ne nous a \u00e9t\u00e9 transmis. M\u00eame la \u00ab convocation \u00bb qui nous a \u00e9t\u00e9 transmise a rev\u00eatu une forme tellement singuli\u00e8re qu\u2019elle en \u00e9tait difficile \u00e0 comprendre. Il nous semblait d\u2019ailleurs qu\u2019une convocation et son ordre du jour devait \u00eatre envoy\u00e9e 15 jours avant la tenue du CSA.<\/p>\n<p>Cela nous m\u00e8ne \u00e0 nous interroger sur les raisons de cet empressement insens\u00e9. Si une nouvelle d\u00e9lib\u00e9ration doit \u00eatre organis\u00e9e dans un d\u00e9lai compris entre 8 et 30 jours, rien n\u2019oblige \u00e0 ce qu\u2019elle ait lieu d\u00e8s le 8\u00e8me jour, si ? Cette question va nous permettre d\u2019effectuer une transition de la forme vers le fond. N\u2019aurait-il pas \u00e9t\u00e9 pr\u00e9f\u00e9rable de prendre quelques heures de plus afin de trouver le temps de r\u00e9diger une convocation en bonne et due forme ? Si vous vous \u00e9tiez accord\u00e9 quelques heures suppl\u00e9mentaires, rendez-vous compte, nous aurions m\u00eame pu disposer d\u2019un compte rendu de CSA qui nous semble important \u00e0 la lumi\u00e8re de l\u2019ordre du jour qui nous r\u00e9unit ce jour. Nous allons donc \u00e0 nouveau nous prononcer aujourd\u2019hui sur votre proposition du nouvel organigramme appliqu\u00e9e de l\u2019\u00e9tablissement. Nous avons vot\u00e9 contre car nous estimons qu\u2019il est tr\u00e8s largement sous-\u00e9valu\u00e9. Vous vous \u00eates empress\u00e9 de nous r\u00e9unir \u00e0 nouveau afin de solliciter une fois de plus notre avis. Bien que nous n\u2019ayons aucun \u00e9l\u00e9ment nouveau nous permettant de nous prononcer diff\u00e9remment, veuillez noter que notre r\u00e9flexion peut \u00e9voluer en fonction des r\u00e9ponses pr\u00e9cises que vous apporterez aux questions suivantes et qui seront scrupuleusement inscrites au PV.<\/p>\n<p><b><i><\/i><\/b>Sur l\u2019organigramme propos\u00e9 sont inscrit 2 personnels extraction :<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Cela vous semble-t-il conforme au protocole d\u2019accord qui a d\u00e9coul\u00e9 du drame d\u2019Incarville ?<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Comment expliquez-vous que puisse \u00eatre mis en place les cong\u00e9s et les repos de ces 2 personnels, sans d\u00e9garnir la d\u00e9tention ?<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Pouvez nous nous faire un \u00e9tat des lieux sur 2024 du volume horaire que repr\u00e9sentent ces missions ext\u00e9rieures ?<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Comment comptabilisez-vous le volume des escortes 3 ?<\/p>\n<p>Nous sommes heureux de d\u00e9couvrir que vous comptabilisez un personnel d\u00e9di\u00e9 \u00e0 temps plein surveillant acteur.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Quels sont les donn\u00e9es et besoins chiffr\u00e9s qui vont ont permis de conclure par la cr\u00e9ation d\u2019un nouveau poste \u00e0 temps plein ?<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Quid des autres personnels form\u00e9s ?<\/p>\n<p>La circulaire du 22 novembre 2018 impose le socle commun de formation dans le cadre du plan national de formation. 136 agents x 5 jours x 7h10 = 4873h, sauf erreur cela repr\u00e9sente plus de 3 ETP<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; O\u00f9 est comptabilis\u00e9 ce besoin dans l\u2019organigramme propos\u00e9 ?<\/p>\n<p>C\u2019est vrai pour la formation et pour les missions ext\u00e9rieures, un agent \u00e0 l\u2019ext\u00e9rieur c\u2019est un poste en d\u00e9tention \u00e0 couvrir.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; O\u00f9 est comptabilis\u00e9 le volume horaire que repr\u00e9sente les missions ext\u00e9rieures ?<\/p>\n<p>Les postes attribu\u00e9s sur l\u2019\u00e9tablissement ne correspondent pas \u00e0 ceux mentionn\u00e9s sur l\u2019\u00e9tablissement.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Pouvez-vous nous expliquer le devenir des agents non mentionn\u00e9s ?<\/p>\n<p>Nous vous remercions pour votre \u00e9coute attentive et, sachant tout l\u2019engagement et l\u2019empressement dont vous avez fait la d\u00e9monstration sur le sujet, gageons que vous serez en mesure de nous apporter des r\u00e9ponses pr\u00e9cise \u00e0 ces interrogations.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fojustice.fr\/web\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/declarationLiminaireJlV091024.pdf\">Lire le communiqu\u00e9<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bonjour \u00e0 tous, nous voil\u00e0 une nouvelle fois r\u00e9unis en CSA, 8 jours apr\u00e8s le dernier en date, afin de nous prononcer une nouvelle fois sur l\u2019organigramme appliqu\u00e9 qui nous a \u00e9t\u00e9 propos\u00e9. 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